Vertiv Holdings Co Class A Common Stock Q2 2026 Earnings Call

Gio Albertazzi and chief Financial Officer Craig Chamberlin. We have one hour for the call today. During the Q&A portion of the call, please be mindful of others in the queue and limit yourself to one question. And if you have a follow up question, please rejoin the queue before. We begin, I'd like to point out that during the course of this call, we will make forward looking statements regarding future events, including the future financial and operating performance of Vertiv. These forward looking statements are subject to material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward looking statements. We refer you to the cautionary language included in today's earnings release, and you can learn more about these risks in our annual and quarterly reports and other filings made with the SEC Any forward looking statements that we make today are based on assumptions that we believe to be reasonable. As of this date, we undertake no obligation to update these statements. As a result of new information or future events. During this call, we will also present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Our GAAP results and GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations can be found in our earnings press release and in the investor slide deck found on our website at investors.vertiv.com.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Executive Chairman Dave Cody.

I am incredibly pleased by our second quarter performance and outlook for the rest of the year and beyond. We have a great position in a good industry and continue to execute very well. Team stay at the forefront of technology with organic investments and acquisitions. The industry outlook is incredibly good because the digital age has decades to go. Our outlook. Outlook is incredibly good and deservedly so. As we provide the picks and shovels for the digital age The seed planting. Gio and his team have been doing continues to pay off and will do so even more in the future as the benefits from our technology investments unfold over time And with all that goodness, we still have opportunity to further improve as Gio likes to likes to say, we are still far from our full potential. The future is so bright we have to wear shades. I love it. With that, I now turn it over to Gio.

Well thank you Dave and welcome everyone. Let us go to slide three. A strong quarter EPS margin profit and cash convincingly strong. Continuing on a trajectory of strong sales growth. Even with some timing elements. Pleased with what we see in July and full confidence in H2 execution and backlog. As a result, we have raised our full year outlook. Net sales were up 24% versus Q2 25, driven by continued strength in the Americas, which grew 29%, and APAC also up 29%. Importantly, EMEA returned to positive net sales growth with a 2% year on year increase on an organic basis. Net sales grew 18% with additional 5% from acquisitions and 1% from favorable currency. Adjusted operating margin came in at 22.6%, exceeding our guidance and growing 410 basis points year on year. The strong margin performance translated into adjusted operating profit of $738 million, up 51% from a year ago. Adjusted. EPS were $1.52, or 60%, up from second quarter 25, driven primarily by higher volume and continued operational productivity. Adjusted free cash flow came in at 925 million, a very strong 234% year on year growth, driven by higher operating profit and working capital efficiency, free cash flow conversion exceeded 150% in the quarter.

We are raising our full year guidance across all key metrics. Net sales raised to $14 billion at $250 million increase from previous guidance. Up 37% year on year. Adjusted diluted EPS now, $6.70. A 60% increase from 25. AOP now expected almost 60% up year on year, and adjusted free cash flow expected at $2.5 billion. And we. Achieved a net cash position at the end of Q2. Let's now move to slide four, and let's start with the market environment. On the left, our global. Pipeline momentum remains very strong and we expect another year of robust orders. Growth. Demand signals are clear and broad based regionally. Let's start with the Americas, where market continues to be strong. Pipeline is actually accelerating. Corroborating the long term growth trajectory of our business. Emea's momentum is further strengthening. This reinforces our confidence in the acceleration for the second half of the year APAC. Showed broad based strength pipeline expansion and favorable market conditions. This supports continued growth across the region. Pricing continues to be favorable. We expect positive price cost in 26, including the current impact of tariffs and countermeasures. Now, to the right side of this slide, Q2 revenue showed strong growth year on year, quarter to quarter.

We are executing on further acceleration in Q3 and Q4 on strong backlog. Additional capacity is online globally. Examples are Johore in Malaysia, five large plants expansions in the Americas, chiller capacity increases in EMEA, and many more. During Investor Day, you saw that this expansion is rapid and broad based at speed, but always in a very disciplined fashion. We are delivering data center infrastructure solution at an increasing scale and level of complexity. That's exactly where we want to be. We experienced a minor timing shifts in Q2 revenue, primarily driven by multi-phase project execution and temporary supply chain dynamics. But the demand is there, and the trajectory is strong. Keep in mind, there are increasingly large projects underway. Think smart, run and think even bigger with one core. These come with significant interdependencies, a lot of coordination, a lot of rapid learning. I like the pace of our progress and we get stronger every day. On. Expenditures. We now expect to be at the high end of our range. 4% of 26 sales as. We further expand global capabilities and capacity going into 27. We continue to invest for the long term in a disciplined manner. In future power architecture, advanced thermal systems, services and converged infrastructure.

These are the building blocks that enable the next generation AI data centers and factories, and we intend to continue to lead the industry. Let's now go to slide five. I am sure many of you will recall our CTO, Scott Armul Power Architecture presentation at our Investor Day in May. I want to reiterate and build on what we shared there. Multiple power architectures will coexist in the future. Vertiv supports each one of them through a complete orchestrated power train On the left side of the slide, you see the different architectures. Our. AC foundation with. As an example. Vertiv energy and Energy. Core battery storage system and the rest of the Vertiv powertrain. Of course, this architecture is broadly deployed, growing, and will continue to be used by many categories of customers. The next architecture serving even higher density, has a medium voltage AC source that feeds low voltage AC to deliver 800 volt DC at rack and pod level. Here. You see new Vertiv technologies like medium voltage bass ups and Vertiv 800 volt DC sidecars. This is under customer validation. In 26 with deployment planned in 27. Then the 800 volt DC architecture at Data hall level here.

Vertiv solutions will include MV DC, UPS and solid state transformer to cover the multiple ways to address the end to end powertrain, where active in the development with planned 27 customer validation supporting 28 deployment. As. Rather than transitioning to a single architecture, the market is expected to leverage both AC and DC solutions as power requirements continue to evolve for years to come. Now, the right side of the slide. This is an example of deploying multiple power architectures as sides. Sites evolve and expand. I'm thrilled to highlight our collaboration with Nvidia and Vision AI. Foxconn's business unit focused on AI supercomputing at their site in Gao Xiang, Taiwan. For the initial phase of this site, vision Bay AI awarded the power, thermal and services business to Vertiv for what is Taiwan's first AI data center, featuring Nvidia JB 300. On top of this, we are collaborating for the world's first AI data center, adopting 800 v DC volt, DC architectures at the Rack and pod level featuring Nvidia, Vera Rubin. This is an example of early customer validation of our roadmap and supports the broad power architecture evolution. This is real. This is happening in a nutshell, as a number of viable power architectures expand and AC and DC coexist to deliver on the 800 volt DC Vertiv content opportunity per megawatt expands.

We're leading this transition. Let us now go to page six, and let's continue on the topic of technology. I want to. Spend a moment talking about Vertiv data Center in architectures and our unique fluid management services. When the two are coupled, combined, we ensure our customers to use nearly zero water. As they. Scale, many customers have been and are adopting closed loop cooling architectures as they optimize power and water use. A closed loop cooling architecture is just that closed or sealed with water recirculated recirculating. Typically, it does not require additional water after the fill at startup. Vertiv. End to end thermal chain technologies for both the primary and secondary cooling loops. Examples are Vertiv trim, cooler, Vertiv cool chip Cdus ,, to name a few. Full enable this approach. This architecture enables a data center to run on no water consumption. Now let's take the focus on water use a step further. Let's also address the initial system. Fill. And this is where perch writes near zero comes into the equation. As part of our unique fluid management technology and services, our purge right near zero. Utilizes a closed loop recirculation system to capture, treat and reuse water during startup.

This reduces the water normally used in the process by up to 90% during the start up of a data center for our customers, this means a faster and more cost effective deployment and commissioning of liquid cooling systems and chilled water circuits. This means a significantly less waste and less disruption on site. More broadly, this expands Vertiv differentiation, thermal management services and we are managing fluid performance from start throughout decades of operational life. Purge. Right. Near zero is scaling through our existing service network. The capability we believe no one else can replicate at our scale. And with that, over to you, Craig.

Thanks. Gio. Turning to slide seven. Let's walk through our second quarter financial results in more detail on a. Adjusted diluted EPS, we delivered $1.52. That's up $0.57 or 60% versus prior year. And $0.12 above guidance. The. Year over year improvement was driven by $0.58 from higher adjusted. After tax adjusted operating profit, which was driven primarily from higher sales volume and increased profitability. Looking at net. Sales. We delivered 3.274 billion in the quarter. That's up 636 million or 24% versus prior year. Organic sales growth was 18%, with 5% additional growth contribution from acquisitions and an additional 1% growth contribution from favorable foreign exchange by regions. Americas grew 21% organically. APAC grew 26% organically, and EMEA was down 2% organically. Moving to adjusted operating profit, we delivered 738 million. That's up 249 million, or 51% versus prior year, and 28 million above the midpoint of our guidance. Adjusted operating margin of 22.6% expanded 410 basis points year over year and came in 140 basis points above guidance. The margin. Expansion was driven by strong operational execution, continued productivity gains, and favorable price cost execution, partially offset by tariff impacts. We're also continuing investing in capacity and engineering R&D to support future business growth. To round out the quarter, adjusted free cash flow and minimum was outstanding with the quarter ending at 925 million, up 648 million, or 234% from prior year.

The. Was driven by higher adjusted operating profit, strong working capital performance, including project milestone collections, which is inclusive of initial advanced payments and lower cash interest. These items were partially offset by higher cash taxes and higher spending on CapEx investments. At our. Quarter end, our net leverage is at negative one point one times, providing even more flexibility. Just a quick note on our deferred revenue, you'll see an increase in the quarter. And that's driven by project advance payments and ongoing milestone collections. We are very happy with our execution on project milestone development and what you're seeing in deferred revenue is a combination of payments at Project initiation, order placement and ongoing project milestone execution. Flipping to slide eight, let's look at segment performance in Americas net sales were 2.71 billion, up 29%, with organic growth of 21%. Organic sales growth remained strong in the quarter. As geo mentioned earlier, some minor timing shifts in two key revenue. These shifts were reflected in the Americas revenue numbers and were primarily driven by multi-phase project execution and temporary supply chain congestion. However, we expect the associated timing delay to resolve in the second half of 2026. Posted operating profit was 571 million, 360 basis points in adjusted operating margin, percentage.

The margin expansion was delivered by ongoing commercial excellence and strong operational execution. Moving to APAC, the region had strong results with net sales at 720 million, up 29%, with organic growth of 26%. We continue to see strong end market demand and the commercial execution across the team gives us confidence going forward. Adjusted operating margin percentage grew 270 basis points in the quarter due to strong operating leverage realized in the region. And EMEA. And sales were 484 million, up 2%, with organic sales down 2%. We continue to see a strengthening market which supports our position for the region to return to organic sales growth in the second half of 2026. EMEA also saw strong growth in adjusted operating margin, percent, up 380 basis points year on year. The team continues to drive improved operational execution, which came through in this strong margin performance. Turning to slide nine. Let's walk through our third quarter 2026 guidance for three. GQ we're projecting adjusted diluted EPS of $1.80 at the midpoint. That represents 45% growth versus prior year. That year over year improvement is driven by continued volume growth and ongoing margin expansion. On net sales, we expect $3.75 billion at the midpoint.

That's up 1.074 billion, or 40% versus prior year. Organic sales growth is expected to be up approximately 35%, with an additional 5% from acquisitions by region, we expect Americas organic growth in the high 30s. AIPAC in the high 30s, and EMEA in the mid-teens. Adjusted operating profit is expected to be 918 million at the midpoint. That's up 322 million, or 54% versus prior year. Adjusted operating margin is expected to be 24.5% at the midpoint. That's up 220 basis points year over year and is driven by strong organic sales growth. Continued operational leverage, and ongoing productivity realization. Now let's turn to slide ten for our updated full year 2026 guidance. We're raising our outlook across all key metrics, starting with adjusted diluted EPS. We now expect $6.70 at the midpoint. That's up $2.50 or 60% versus 2025. The updated range is now at $6.65 to $6.75. This is an increase of $0.35 at the midpoint versus prior guidance. The year over year improvement is driven by continued volume growth and ongoing margin expansion for. Net sales, we now expect 14 billion at the midpoint. That's up 3.77 billion, or 37% versus 2025. This represents an increase of 250 million versus our prior guidance. Organic.

Sales growth is expected to be at 31%, with 5% growth from acquisitions and 1% growth from favorable currency. By region, we expect Americas organic growth in the high 30s. APAC in the low 30s, and areas in low single digits Moving to adjusted operating profit, we now expect 3.325 billion at the midpoint. That's up approximately 1.235 billion, or 59%, versus 2025. This is an increase of 125 million versus our prior guidance. Adjusted operating margin is expected to be 23.8% at the midpoint, expanding approximately 340 basis points from 2025 and up 50 basis points versus our prior guidance. The margin expansion is driven by continued operational leverage and positive price cost execution, which is offsetting some tariff headwinds Finally, adjusted free cash flow is expected to be 2.5 billion at the midpoint. That's up six 613 million, or 32% versus 2025. The year over year improvement is driven by higher adjusted operating profit and lower cash interest, which is partially offset by higher cash taxes and higher investments in capital expenditures. We're delivering strong results, raising our outlooks and executing with discipline based on our performance and momentum. We're very confident in our ability to continue driving results throughout the balance of the year.

With that, I'll send it back to you. Gio.

Well, thank you, thank you, Craig. Craig. And go to slide 11 to wrap up strong performance. We are delivering. And the team continues to raise the bar on what's possible. We raised our full year 26 guidance across all key metrics. The momentum is strong. It's broad based and it's accelerating. We continue to invest with discipline, not just for the 45% growth we expect in the second half, but for the years beyond capacity, innovation services on M&A, we closed a thermal in June, strengthening our heat rejection capabilities. We closed the strategic thermal labs in April, we're adding the server side liquid cooling and core plate expertise for high density thermal management. Together, these two acquisitions expand what we offer across the full thermal spectrum from heat rejection to direct to chip cooling. Allow me to. Additional spotlights at the Naval Postgraduate School in partnership with Nvidia, we delivered a fully engineered packaging packaged rack power and cooling system into an existing on prem facility. This includes liquid cooling, integration, commissioning and and deployment and deployment support. This is a repeatable at scale reference architecture for Nvidia GTX 300. We call this Vertiv smart. It solution. The project established an advanced locally operated AI environment for education, research, engineering, modeling and simulation.

This also shows how an existing facility can rapidly be transformed to support next generation accelerated computing. Easy for enterprise and sovereign customers to adopt in EMEA, Germany, our collaboration with data for is a great example of the momentum we're seeing in that region, Vertiv delivers complete powertrain, including switchgear, ups and battery systems, etc., and thermal chain like chilled water units, free cooling chillers and our industry leading services. It all will enable data for new Frankfurt side. This is exactly the kind of optimized end to end system deployments with Vertiv excels. To conclude, I'm more confident in our trajectory today than I've ever been. We're executing. We're investing ahead of the curve and increasingly, our customers are asking us to help them. Architect their most complex infrastructures That's the role we've earned. And it's the role we intend to further strengthen with that., let's go to the Q&A.

We will now begin the. We will now begin the question and answer session. In order to ask a question, press star. Then the number one on your telephone keypad. In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question, and if you have a follow up question, please rejoin the queue. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A. The first question comes from the line of Scott Davis. From. Melius Research Scott, please go ahead. A reminder, a reminder to unmute locally.

Oh, yes. Thanks for the reminder. Operator. I haven't figured out my phone yet. It's. Anyway, sorry guys and good, good. Good morning. Still good morning .. Look, I just want to address a little bit of the issue that maybe hurt your stock a little bit today with the, with the ,,, the timing shifts in two Q revenues, the, you know, the supply chain congestion comment, what can you give us a little bit more detail on, on that and more explicitly, you know, is this something I mean, complexity is something that I would imagine is going to just do nothing but increase over the next five years. And perhaps forever., is this potentially going to be an ongoing issue?, not just, a, you know, a one off and, and if so, how do you, how do you mitigate or kind of manage through it so that it really doesn't disrupt quarters the way that,, you know, perhaps it can.

Well,. Thank you, Scott, for, for the question. And, and you're right, complexity is increasing., some of the projects,, are not only bigger, but multidimensional. And that could be a lot of supply chain interdependencies. And these chain is not necessarily an external supply chain. It can be very often an internal,, with. Deane with within Vertiv., supply chain. Now, clearly, like everything,, and like we've done in,, so far,, there is a learning curve., I'm pleased with the speed at which we are progressing in this learning curve. And this learning curve is,, is a, is learning curve. And the execution on, on this complexity. So I'm pretty, I'm pretty confident about,, our direction of travel. And,, and again., these are the first very large projects with this level of,, of complexity and,, and we are,, more and. More equipped for this, not just from a technology standpoint, but from a logistics and operations in general. When it comes to the second part of your question. So what could be the,, is there an ongoing impact on the future? Well,, certainly, as I said, there is a learning curve that we are progressing on., at, at,, at speed., but there is also the fact that we, we are prudent anyway in our second half guidance.

And this is true,, in, in general, also for the, for the future. So,, if you think about our H2,, guidance, we're not assuming all stars align. So we have a wiggle room for,, you know, this progress on the, on the learning curve, not to be perfect, though, of course., speed and perfection is,, is our goal.

Okay. Fair point. And then just a quick one., is there a price where you would start buying back stock a little bit more aggressively just given the pullback we're seeing in the entire complex right now?

I mean, I think we always look at it opportunistically. Scott. And that's the thing that we've talked about even at Investor Day. Again, you know, given today, it is a good time to look at it. But I think it's always something that we evaluate and take a, you know, what we consider our capital deployment. And it's one of the areas we look at. So.

Fair enough. I wish you all the best guys. Good luck and I'll pass it on.

The next question comes from the line of Jeff Sprague with Vertical Research. Jeff, please go ahead.

Hey, thanks. Good morning.. Hey, Gio just on the comment that the the pipeline is actually accelerating., I assume that's sort of all hyperscale, but could you give a little bit more context on sort of the nature of the acceleration? Is it, is it, is it scope to Vertiv? Is it kind of additional customers? Is it existing customers looking to do more, more quickly?, you know, and it seems to support the comment you're making about robust orders for the year, but just love a little bit more color there. If we could.

And just start from the end,. Good. Let's start from,, from the end. Yes. Of course, is,, this, this is support. Certainly supporting our,, our comments about the. The, about orders., when, when I talk about pipeline, I always like to talk about,, magnitude of pipeline, if you will, and speed of pipeline. When I talk about speed of pipeline, we talk about acceleration. It means that the sales cycle within the, within the pipeline can, can be faster or slower. So we noticed in acceleration. So it becoming faster sales cycle, but at the same time, just to be extremely clear, the strength is also in sheer size of the pipeline in terms of quarter to quarter, year on year, year on year growth. And this is broad based. It's pretty much across across the world, but also it's broad based across the various customer categories. Certainly,, certain. Early,, you know, the whole range hyperscalers,, it is true for,, enterprise, it's certainly true for ,, colo. Neo cloud. So pretty, pretty broad based.

And just to add on to that. Jeff, I would also just say again, as hyperscalers and, and,, colos hyperscalers are sometimes deploying through Colos. So to look at it that way, you might get a little bit of a mix there., so just to ensure going back to what Gio said, we're seeing it, you know, again, across regions, across products. And that's the way we really look at it. But that's the, that's the way we would view our pipelines and see it, you know, accelerating in all those spaces.

And just a quick one, if I could, do you have a solid state transformer solution at scale at this point?, where do you stand on that product evolution?

Just like,, one of the slides was,, describing the solid state is, currently a matter of,, product development for us. It's in product development phase.

Thank you.

Yeah. Thanks.

Your next. Question comes from Amit Daryanani with Evercore Amit. Please go ahead.

Yep. good afternoon everyone. Thanks for taking my question., I guess Gio, if you just go back to the supply chain issues,, and delays, can you just talk about how much revenues were actually pushed out due to these challenges you had in the quarter? I think you missed the numbers by 100 million, but I'm wondering if the supply issues were perhaps much larger than that from a dollar perspective., and maybe just on the same lines, can you just talk about, you know, was it a Vertiv specific issue or something that the customer side that led to this impact? And then how do you see this going back into the model, into the back half? Thank you..

So good afternoon. First of all, is it is it customer or is it is it Vertiv? You know, on, on the customer side, pretty much we see,, the same dynamics that we have seen historically. So, so no big, no big differences when, when it comes to, to the Vertiv side and the exact and the exact amounts, well, that we will not be too specific, but, but the majority of what we're seeing is really coming from those dynamics that I've described during,, while I was going through my opening remarks, but also the, the conversation with, the, with,, with Scott, that is pretty much the, the dynamics that we see,, is it on the supply chain, you know, the supply chain is, is always a matter of,, of,. Working the sequence of things. It's nothing different than what we have experienced.. Historically,, and we are pleased with,, with how we are strengthening our,, the. Resilience of our business in, in general.

And I would. Just add that, just to clarify, you know, we're talking about the large project deployments and the learning curve around that, which has confounding effects from both the external supply chain and our own internal supply chain. So there are some, I'd say, gray areas in there when, you know, we typically can recover from a late part and, in our, in our smaller supply chains, when it becomes a larger supply chain, it becomes more confounding. So,, again, not to define that specifically, but that's the areas where we're seeing it the most is in those large project deployments. And we're learning and understanding what that takes to go forward and how to iron those out. And then also, again, as we talked about thinking of not always that being perfect in the second half, as we look into the guidance.

The next question comes from the line of Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets. Deane. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Good morning everyone. I'll keep it to one question., really good performance on free cash flow conversion this quarter., but for Craig, I'd be interested in hearing was there any contribution from customer deposits on orders? I know that's something you all have been looking at., and Dave Cote knows from his air defense days that that's pretty standard., to,,, require deposits on larger orders. So any contribution there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Deane. And again, I want to congratulate you. I know you're retiring in September, so,, congratulations. A great career. Fantastic career. But,, to your question, yeah. If you look at the face of the balance sheet and I mean, the face of the,, the balance sheet, you'll see that our,, deferred revenue did go up and our deferred revenue is a read through in terms of those advanced deposits on orders, but it's also ongoing deposits as we go through the milestones of delivering those larger projects. So it's a combination of both, but that is driving the working capital and the great cash performance. When you look at it across the entire balance sheet. So definitely an indicator of strong commercial performance on both sides.

Great. Thank you for those kind words. And I appreciate all the support from the team and wish you all continued success. Thanks.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research Nigel. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good., good morning everyone.. I just want to pick up on that topic. I think this is the first time. Maybe I'm wrong, but the first time I've. I've heard progress collections, you know, kind of staged payments., maybe just touch on that. I know, I know your assortment is, is changing, you know, with,, you know, one core and, and smart run., so just maybe just talk about that. What, what kind of percentage of revenues are we talking about now that actually has progress collections? And then just this is not a, a second question, by the way. It's more of a kind of an add on to the first one. The balance sheet,, the balance sheet numbers moved quite a lot this quarter. So, I mean, the thermal key acquisitions seem quite small, but did it come with quite a, quite a big balance sheet. Thanks ..

Didn't come with a large balance sheet. So I'll answer that one first. And then we can go a little bit. I'll double click on it as we go further into your your your question. Nigel., but in terms of the actual progress collections,, yeah, there is a portion that we get up front and there's a portion as we deliver milestones. And a lot of that is related to delivering products to the, the end project. And so that's how you would start phasing it in. And sometimes you get those a couple, you know, like a month before you deliver projects, sometimes you get those at the end of design. So they are all phased in different ways. So we would get a portion up front. We'd get a portion at the delivery milestones that we set forth or in our view, staying ahead of the curve in terms of a cash position in that project. So some of it's going to be related to deliveries where you would see revenue incurred. Some of it might be delivered on terms of a design point, which would be a secondary milestone before revenue occurs., and again, they're all a little different in how we look through them all.

The goal being staying ahead of the curve and being cash positive on that., on the other faces of the balance sheet you mentioned, you know, lots of movement., we do have a significant ramp in the second half. So you would see some inventory come on. And as that inventory comes on, you'll see a P come on as well., and we did have a, you know, a great, a good quarter in terms of sales. So that's where our AR is going up as well. So all of this is a reflection of the volume you're seeing. Thermo had little impact to that.

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Next question comes from Andrew. Kaplowitz with Citigroup Andrew please. Go ahead.

Good morning everyone.

Good. Good day to you, Andrew.

Andrew.

So Gio, you updated us again regarding the evolution toward 800 VDC, potentially in the start to impact versus 2027. And I know you commented on an SST in product development of Jeff, but when you step back, how confident are you that Vertiv content per megawatt could go up as 800 VDC technology is adopted? As I think you reiterated today, and would you surmise that Vertiv 800 VDC offering could be toward the higher end of that 3.25 million at 3.75 million per megawatt range? You gave us at the Analyst Day.

Yeah, we're pretty convinced about that.

And also, when we look at all the elements of the powertrain,, in, in the various architectures and,, and when we think what happens inside the white space in the gray space., we see,, value there., for Vertiv. And an expansion of,, revenue per. Year camper per. Per megawatt ., so not differently from,, from our conversations or what we shared at investor day. It's,, it's two months ago,, we continue to go through that math and the math is corroborated by, of course,. All the progress that we're doing on the, on the product development, but also on the,, on the,, activity. That we are, we are conducting with,, with customers. So we, we should, and we would need to go elements per elements in that, in that chain. But, but again, think about the entire,, powertrain, all the elements., vis a vis., what we have today. And see that with that density, with that complexity, our content is,, is impacted favorably.

Thank you. Gio.

The next question comes from. Andrew. Obin with Bank of America. Andrew. Please go ahead.

Yes. Good morning.

Good morning Andrew ., just maybe a. Another question on this,, deferred revenue. So,, you know, we've been getting lots of questions,, on this topic., it's a large number, but I guess what folks are trying to figure out, and I know sort of some people have been asking similar question, has the structure of your, deferred revenue sort of changed materially from what it was like? I'm not asking. I know that it fluctuates quarter to quarter., I totally get that. But, you know, has the structure of what goes into deferred revenue, changed material over the. Still, if we look at deferred revenue over the past several quarters, it's apples to apples., it's. To apples. Andrew. Now, what you might be feeling a little bit differently is as we talked about back and fourth quarter, we had a large order influx on the inverse solution business where,, I would say a lot of these milestones are set up in the project based world as opposed to the point, you know, product based world. So the project based world might have more milestones before delivery of revenue. So you would get one and one at input of order, and then one along the way as a design and one you potentially, as you start deliver products.

So you have different levels of milestone on those projects versus a point product. And we know that the, the project basis that we've talked about a lot, those larger ones, one quarter smart runs, we had a large order intake in the fourth quarter of last year that we spoke to. And again, that would be some of the stuff that you might be seeing in the deferred revenue as it comes through., throughout the year. And then again, it is it is tied to our regular,, down payments as well, but no structural change in the way that we would, recognize deferred revenue.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley. Chris, go. Ahead.

Thank.

Thank you., I wanted to follow up on the conversation around the production disruption and some of the supply chain impact., I guess, you know, you guys are obviously guiding to a pretty significant organic ramp here into the back half relative to what we saw in the first half. So,, I guess, you know, anything that you could provide around confidence that you're seeing in these, in these,, this disruption getting better, like I would imagine that as the quarter went on, the monthlies got better. I think you said July was off to a, a start that presumably supports this ramp. So,, I guess has it gotten better any just kind of color on that monthly cadence? It was more confident in the back half..

Thank you. Thank you. Chris. I wouldn't use the word disruption., I think we have to, I want to be clear about,, we talk about complexity and interdependencies., as I said, very, very often in these large projects, you will see multiple, multiple Vertiv factories feeding., the factories, besides, of course,, external suppliers feeding those factories as well. So it's really a complexity. So there is an operational aspect to your question that is,, you know, we are getting. Longer and stronger in, in the operational execution of that complexity. So the complexity doesn't go away. But, but the, our ability to handle that complexity is certainly accelerating very, very strong. And that's enhance my questions., sorry, enhance my, my, my, my comments., but,, again, I wouldn't, I wouldn't talk in terms of,, of disruption.

I think on your second point of why do we feel comfortable about the second half? As Gio said, you know, it's a learning curve when you have these large projects and you do have congestion in your supply chain, which again, some of that stuff's normal on point products, which is easier to iron out as you have a learning project for the larger project. Some of it takes a little bit more time to get smoothed out and understand,, you know, we're seeing good signs of it being able to ratchet up that learning curve. And as we think about the second half, we've also assumed some of that congestion continues as we normally would. But on these projects, it might be a little bit further. Of congestion that we would have assumed than normal. So Exactly. So all in all, we believe that,, we have we're prudent in our second half. And, and very, very ,, well, supportive of backlog.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Nicole DeBlase with Deutsche Bank Nicole. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Thanks and good morning guys., I'm sorry to beat a dead horse, but I'm going to,, I think with respect to the second half ramp, there's still, you know, a lot of questions about what specifically is embedded and what isn't. Maybe a way to frame it. I'll try this. Like how much of the second half ramp is based upon this improvement in learning curve and maybe unlocking some of the revenue that was pushed out of to Q, versus just the overall capacity ramp that you guys are doing at the same time, just so that we can try to get more comfortable with the step up in revenues that are embedded in the second half and how much visibility you have into that. Thank you.

Yeah., thank you, thank you. Nicole ., when we talk about unlocking revenue, let's just be clear that,, you know, the, the ,, the. The revenues,, that, that were,, let's say a little bit locked in some elements on, on the second quarter are being,, delivered, deployed. In,, in,, in the second half.. And,, we feel extremely well about that,, when it comes to,, you know, some elements of,, congestion, possible elements of congestions as,, as Craig mentioned, we are prudent in our guidance, though we believe that there will be. And we see we are seeing,, certainly a strong acceleration and improvement from an operational standpoint, we still remain prudent in our guidance. Their is capacity. That is being released., and,, that is a big element, of course, of,, of,, also the, the backlog conversion. So look at it as three, three levels., the operational acceleration in the complex projects, the capacity,, coming, coming available as has been coming available in the, in the second quarter. But first, even more so in the second half, a very strong backlog coverage. And over and above that, wrap it up with any way an a, a guidance that it's not an all star aligned type of guidance.

Next question comes from Amit Mehrotra with you. UBS. Amit. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Operator.. Gio. I'd be curious to sort of compare and contrast some of the,, challenges you're having today to the challenges you had., really kind of this time last year. And, and,, you know, you got back on track pretty quickly., from an operational, but, but, but at that time, it wasn't a revenue issue. It was more of a margin issue and an operational issue. And, and I know at heart you're an operational guy. So just maybe compare and contrast that and, and are there multiple points of I I just want to maybe explain the complexity within the complexity. What I mean by that is, is that are there multiple points of challenges or is there sort of one main challenge that sort of cascading across the supply chain, that a little bit color there would be helpful?

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. And,, and really, really appreciate you. You drawing that parallel,, to exactly a year ago. It was a different nature. That stage was,, was Ireland and,, and some executional challenges on the, on the busbar switchgear that,, that we have,, amply recouped, as you were saying. But I think this highlights the fact that in a business that is moving at the speed that is growing at the speed with,, with a number, let's say, of technology, with the technology. Need, sorry, the speed of technology evolution that we are experiencing. And indeed driving, you know, there is a lot of complexity to, to,, to, to, to manage and,, and so in many respects, the parallel is, is similar. You were talking about, well, that was a margin. This is,, this is a revenue., anyway, it's operational execution that, that we're concentrating on ,, right now. So,, it may be different in the type of,, product line, if you will. It's not different in terms of,, of the type of focus and the type of,, and the type of,, let's say,, recipe that we, that we apply. And again, it's a matter of really continue to mature operationally as the, the market, the portfolio, the scope of what we do continues to evolve.

So I feel very good about that. As I, as I did a year ago.

Are you Are you, are you failing ?, are you it's not failing, but are you reducing the on time delivery of the customer? Because one of the USPS has been Vertiv has been one of the few companies that can deliver on time in full. Are you, you know, are you disappointing customers with this development that opens up market share opportunities for other companies or no.

Well, look ,, our our overall performance,, is,, if anything in improving,, so,, I would say that the answer is,, is not something that changes our perception in the market. We believe.

The next question comes from Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Mark, please go ahead., yes, thank you for taking my question., one of the key topics at the Investor Day that we haven't discussed yet on the call this morning is around M&A. I think you talked about something in the order of 24 billion that could be deployed in light of some of the pullback and,, financial market valuations, as well as all the opportunities you see on the technology front, including areas like 800 volt. I'm curious if you could give us your latest thoughts on the M&A opportunity and if the pipeline there is active, and that might be something that could be executed upon relatively soon. Thanks.

I mean, I would say our our outlook doesn't change in terms of the M&A world. We still look at it in the same way. We looked at it back., during Investor Day, but it is active and we do see an active market and we are participating in that active market looking at, you know, several targets., but again, it has to fit us and it has to be the right,, I'd say value play for us in terms of a fit in our portfolio and what we believe we can grow and what we can return to investors in terms of what we're going to pay., again, I've always talked about, we invest in ourselves first and that's capacity and that's R&D. And that's development. And that's the things we're always going to look at. And then we'll look at, you know, the external spots where we believe we can get true value out of an acquisition and an add on, whether it be regional reach or a product that we believe will get us to the market faster, or technology we don't currently have., so yes, we are active and we continue to look at it in terms of that framework.

The next question comes from Noah. Kaye with Oppenheimer Noah. Please go ahead.

Thank.

Thanks for taking the question. You know, talking about some of these,, these learning curve developments around what seems to be more of a focus on the, on the infrastructure solutions. You know, the components of these, as we understand them, the building blocks, they're already part of the Vertiv portfolio largely., but I'm just curious, as you come up this learning curve is to what extent are you. Increasing your vertical integration across those building blocks and supply chain? Is that a process that you are undertaking now? Is it something that needs to happen on a go forward basis to mitigate and manage some of those challenges in architecting these solutions?

Well,, there is clearly always an analysis on make or buy vertical integration. And anything we do, be it at a point product level,, and at,, let's say,, large infrastructure solution level., when, when you talk about vertical integration for infrastructure solutions for us is really ,. We have very vertical integrated in the sense that we're putting into our infrastructure solutions., products that are Vertiv products. So then,, then clearly we are in,, in good control of the, of the supply chain., in that respect., and so we feel good in this moment. We do not think there are any major gaps in,, vertical integration for what we're doing, but that doesn't mean that we will not adjust over time. The, the mix of makabayan, whichever I mentioned that that could be depending on,, depending on,, on the type of business, depending on where we manufacture and not all manufacturing locations are the same in terms of access to a nearby,, let's say supplier. ,, critical mass. So it's always there, but we do not perceive in this moment,, that there are any major, gaps. But for example, if you think about an acquisition,, that we, that we shared with you last quarter,, be Marco,, that was, that was a move to vertical integrate on,, on our frame construction for our,, infrastructure.

Solutions. So that I think testament to the dynamic approach that we have when it comes to, to, to make a buy.

Yes. Thank you.

The next question comes from Ananda Baruah with Loop Capital. Ananda, please go ahead.

Yeah. Thanks, guys for taking the question. Really appreciate it., I'd love to get your guys view. This is an 800 V for 50 V question for 800 V how broadly throughout the marketplace ,, are you expecting the next couple of years? The, the technology be adopted and really the genesis for the question is there's that, as you guys may know, there's,, you know, sort of been speculation the last few months that that one of the larger ,, AI infrastructure companies could see a push out that would, that would use 800 V,, as far. As far as in 2029., how if there were a major customer push out how broad is the tech? Are you guys anticipating detect to be throughout the industry? And then we've heard really good things about 450 V potential over the next 24 months. You know, what's the right way to think about the impact that could have? And could that fill in any white space? You know, if there were like a meaningful, you know, sort of AI infrastructure, 800 V customer push out. Thanks. Does any context would be helpful. Thanks.

Well, thanks.,, a multi-dimensional multi-layer,, question answer here. So,, I will not comment on rumours., in,, in the market., as we,, shared with,, with investors,, in ,, may, but also, but also ,, earlier today, we believe that the adoption of 800 volt,, will be gradual would be convincing .. We are certainly very invested in that part of the, in that part of the, of the portfolio., whether that happens at the speed that is currently in, in our roadmaps and that you saw or something,, slower than that,, you know, we will be flexible and certainly we are extremely resilient with that because it means that,, other parts of the architectures that we, that we provide to our customers will, will certainly,, be,, you know, take the, the share of the, of the market in terms of architecture. So whichever way, no matter the, the speed of acceleration, we think that we are in a good,, in a good place because we have the architectures, we have the technologies, the roadmaps, as we shared. But there is a 400 volt DC question and that 100 to 400 volt question is, is an important one. We see that some,, players.. Are thinking. In terms both of,, 804 hundred,, the underlying technology is not dramatically different.

And,, and quite honestly, we are involved in, in both.

That's really helpful. Thanks so much. Really appreciate it.

Sure.

The next question comes from Luke Junk. With Baird. Luke, please go ahead.

Yeah. Thanks for sneaking, sneaking me in here., Gio hoping just to get some texture around your ongoing increase in confidence around the market. Specifically. And we saw a step up in margins sequentially. This quarter. How do you think about the sustainability there? Or maybe even the potential for some further improvement in the back half of the year? Thank you.

Yeah. Well, thanks for the question., the,, we, we are, we are pretty, bullish about Emea's., as you saw, certainly we believe in a strong,, second half and,, back to growth. You see me performing better than,, than we expected. Anyway, in the second quarter. So very, very confident in the second half. I was vocal about the fact that we were very happy with orders in EMEA in the first quarter. I would say that we we like what we see in the second quarter. And there is a backlog formation that is certainly, certainly convincing. And,, we see that the improvement translates in top line., and bottom line improvement has demonstrated. So the market continues to accelerate. And we certainly have,, a very. Very, a very important position in that market.

And Luke, I'll just hit on the fact that we do. And as we've talked about through,, even back as early as last year, we do see a second half increase in,, in growth for EMEA., in terms of where we expect their organic growth to go from a revenue perspective., in terms of the,, or I say the gain that you saw in margin was a favorable comp to, as, as, as you had mentioned, the Ireland portion did come through to. Q last year, which was in EMEA. So there's a little bit of a favorable comp in there, but we do still expect margins to be pretty, pretty good.

Got it. Leave it there. Thank you.

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back to Gio Albertazzi. For any closing remarks.

Well, thank you. And,, thank you very much, everyone. Thank you for the questions. And thank you for your time today. I am very pleased with,, what we delivered this quarter and how we positioned for the second half. The team is executing at a high level scaling capacity, deepening customer partnership, and advancing our technology portfolio all simultaneously. It's not easy, but it is. But there's invigorates us pipelines are strong. Our operational discipline is sharp. And our customer trust us to deliver at scale Just to be clear, I am very encouraged by our trajectory. I am pleased, but certainly never satisfied with,, with that. Thank you all. And I wish you all a great rest of the day.

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